Today's topic addresses yet one more popular apostasy by the modern-day Church in America.
Is it true that all of the one-third of heaven who were cast down to earth became devils and demons?
Where exactly does the bible say that they ALL are demons today?
The problem of course is that the bible does not say that; it is a doctrine of men!
We at Inchristi.org have become so saddened by the great falling-away from the truth which has happened during the course of the last several decades: what once we knew was true is no longer known today . . . because the spirit of Antichrist has become a major voice in this the Church of Laodicea today.
We no longer know from where we come: it no longer is deemed by those "pastors and teachers" to be important that Jesus Christ is our REDEEMER!
They do not know what "redemption" means, they have decided according the their own wisdom it does not matter that Jesus is BUYING US BACK From Sin and Death.
Over the course of the last several centuries many men have become theologians and priests, academic scholars and doctors of divinity . . . and so forth.
The "shepherds" do not care what is true, they only care that the world *thinks ABOUT them* — that they are reputed in this world to "know" and to "care ABOUT" the Truth, who is Jesus Christ.
This topic is yet one more example of the significant way in which (apparently) 100% of the American Church "pastors and teachers, Christian evangelist and apologists, professors and theologians" . . . the wise of this world do not know who we are or from whence we came.
» One cannot TEACH what one does not KNOW.
When we at Inchristi.org first were made by the Lord to be His we were newborn babes in Jesus Christ — many, many decades ago.
We did not know everything;
Jesus changed us:
» we read and belived the Holy Scriptures;
»we heard Jesus and believed what He said;
» when we knew what He promised to to us, that the Comforter will "lead us into ALL TRUTH."
» we Believed and obeyed His promise = that God Himself would lead us to all things.
Today this Promise of the Lord is no longer considered true,
» we are no longer taught that God Himself is our teacher.
Insomuch as we are not taught to believe Jesus' promise
» we are taught that the promises of God are NOT reliable.
» The wisdom of this world teaches what the world wants us to believe.
» Today's false teachers do NOT ask God for wisdom.
» Rather they make a pretension to God by reciting a request that He give them wisdom
» They do not actually do as we are commanded to do . . .
When we petition the Lord in prayer we must Wait Upon the Lord.
Today they follow and trust in *the Wisdom of Men*
— they decide that they will find their own answers instead of waiting for the Lord to teach them.
— They accept the lies of the seducing spirits that they can "Know God" by their own studies, on their own, using their own will and efforts;
. . . while they continue to pay lip-service to God's promise of the Comforter.
Below is our question to every Pastor or Bishop, to every single so-called teacher or evangelist, to every single anointed-by-Man and ordained-by-Men leader in the Church of Jesus Christ today:
Why do you teach the children of God that they *do not really* come from before the foundations of the earth,
instead you teach that we are something that God created later . . . as an afterthought?
Why is it so very important that this *trending* very popular lie of the Antichrist be put right?
Because this abomination of Satanic "doctrine of the Church" is really saying that all of us are beyond the reach of Jesus Christ, that we are all devils and demons which means that we are all well beyond the Grace of God unto Redemption and Salvation.
Therefore we have searched the Holy Scriptures with an attempt to find where, if anyplace, the Bible actually does say what the men of this world say: That ALL of the one-third of the host of heaven who were cast out, those who are fallen beyond the Grace of God who is Jesus Christ, are today and forever will remain Demons and Devils.
Why do we care about the Truth in this matter?
Because they are talking US . . . about the Very Elect of God . . . about each and all of us who all existed with God in Heaven since before the foundations of this world were laid.
We will not cite to you chapter and verse . . . which were not in the original texts of the Bible as God breathed them out: the chapters and verses and captions and heading have been added to the Bible by the carnal men: those who think that they know better than God what He ought to have breathed out.
We will teach you the Truth . . . where you came from, what happened to you, and why you are on this earth today:
Your Maker who loves you is both Merciful and Just.
IF: you too are saved by our Lord and our God, if it is true that the Holy Ghost is dwelling in you, if He has written the Living Word of God (Jesus Christ) on your hearts;
THEN: He will bear witness in your spirit that what we write to you is both faithful and true;
BUT-IF: any man will not acknowledge the gospel of Jesus Christ;
THEN: let him remain ignorant, and receive ye him as a false teacher.
Amen.
This may (likely will) go against what you may have been taught at your local church by your past or present false teacher; that God made your soul when you were conceived in the womb — it is a lie from the father of all lies.
The first priority of God is not salvation; first must come order; for without order there can be no salvation.
Before God created this world; He had made heaven and all the host of heaven who dwelleth therein, the Angelic Beings who inhabited heaven.
But our God is not the author of confusion, He made an ORDER in heaven . . . just as He later created the Laws of this Universe which remain sovereign today.
All of the host of heaven ("the armies of God") were ordered into what we today would call armies and divisions, regiments battalions and companies and platoons.
There were three "armies" into which all the angels were organized, each with its own Field Marshall over those who were in that Army.
The "field marshal" of one of those three armies was named Lucifer.
Then sin entered into heaven, through the Pride of Lucifer;
— who "said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation." [Isaiah 14:13 KJV]
— and "Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas." [Ezekiel 28:1-4 KJV abridged]
— and "it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them . . . he magnified himself even to the prince of the host . . . it cast down the truth to the ground." [Daniel 8:10-12 KJV]
When: Lucifer openly rebelled against God
Then: One Third of the Host Of Heaven were directly under him.
Yes: many of those angels under Lucifer JOINED into his rebellion.
» today those are the disembodied spirits who become demons and devils in this world.
But-Not: all of One-Third of the Host of Heaven joined with the rebellion:
» their were some who did NOT join into and commit the sin.
And-Those: who were directly UNDER Satan's command,
» But they did NOT join into his rebellion (which is witchcraft):
— They were EXPOSED to the sin of PRIDE.
— They had became UNCLEAN and IMPERFECT.
— They could not remain in heaven!
Oh man, do you think that you are more wise than He who created heaven and earth?
» Do you think that you are more JUST and more MERCIFUL than He whose "mercy endureth for ever?"
Those who were made unclean in the "heaven itself [which] was not found to be clean"
» those were made clean by the Blood of the Lamb.
Those who were in God's Order under Lucifer,
» but they did not rebel
» they could not be cast into the same lot of eternal damnation with those rebellious angels who sinned in heaven.
It would be unjust to judge the evil with the rightous with the same judgment.
We declare to the world the very Nature of the Lord our God:
Yayweh Shua cannot be unjust!
Hear and know that the Lord our Redeemer knew all these things would happen BEFORE he created the very first angel;
» know that our Infinite and Omniscient God knew that sin would enter when He made us in His image: with a free will to choose good or evil;
» but you must Hear + Believe that He has a priority which comes before ORDER, which comes much earlier than cometh SALVATION!
But that is a topic for another day, sufficient for today . . .
» just as one cannot learn Trigonometry
— before one learns Algebra and Geometry;
» so must one learn the Third Priority of God
— before we are able to *know* God's Second Priority;
» and it is true that we must learn the Second Priority of God
— before one is able to *see with the Spirit* the First Priority of God.
Let it suffice for today that we discontinue lying about the Children of the Living God, teaching Jesus' body on this earth that they are devils and demons.
If you wish to contact us regarding the Way, the Truth and the Life then please . . .
Please find below are a very brief, incomplete list & summary of only a few relevant scriptures which one might wish to read again, regarding those who were cast down as well as regarding those who are "the fallen ones" (which "fallen from grace" includes us: the descendents of Adam and Eve).
Revelations 12:10
And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.
Daniel 8:9-12 KJV
And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant [land. ]
And it waxed great, [even] to the host of heaven; and it cast down [some] of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them.
Yea, he magnified [himself] even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily [sacrifice] was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given [him] against the daily [sacrifice] by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.
Isaiah 14:12-16 KJV
How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.
Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.
They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, [and] consider thee, [saying, Is] this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;
The First Book of Moses, called Genesis | Regarding Giants . . .Genesis 6:1-9 KJV
And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they [were] fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also [is] flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare [children] to them, the same [became] mighty men which [were] of old, men of renown.
And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.
[Note that NOAH was the last who was "Perfect in his GENERATIONS"] These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
More Regarding the many GIANTS . . .
Deuteronomy 2:10-11
The Emims dwelt therein in times past, a people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims;
Which also were accounted giants, as the Anakims; but the Moabites call them Emims.
Deuteronomy 2:20-21
(That also was accounted a land of giants: giants dwelt therein in old time; and the Ammonites call them Zamzummims;
A people great, and many, and tall, as the Anakims; but the LORD destroyed them before them; and they succeeded them, and dwelt in their stead:
Deuteronomy 3:11-13
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants; behold, his bedstead [was] a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
And this land, [which] we possessed at that time, from Aroer, which [is] by the river Arnon, and half mount Gilead, and the cities thereof, gave I unto the Reubenites and to the Gadites.
And the rest of Gilead, and all Bashan, [being] the kingdom of Og, gave I unto the half tribe of Manasseh; all the region of Argob, with all Bashan, which was called the land of giants.
Deuteronomy 12:4
And the coast of Og king of Bashan, [which was] of the remnant of the giants, that dwelt at Ashtaroth and at Edrei,
. . . and there are many, many more in the Bible, hundreds of references to these Nephilim and their children throughout the entire bible.
Why should this false teaching matter to the Church?
How does the false doctrine of men . . . which teaches that ALL of the one-third of heaven who were cast down are today devils and demons . . . bring dishonor and blasphemy upon our God?
Because it is a stumbling block in the way of Jesus Christ's church.
Because it has become a stumbling block in the way of Jesus Christ's church.
A few weeks ago on the radio show Cross Examined the host Frank took a thoughtful question from a devoted listener, as follows:
If God is all-knowing, then before creation of this world He knew that sin would come and that all men would sin and die.
My question is, Why did God create those people when He knew beforehand that they would be condemned to hell?
It is a fair and thoughtful question . . . a question which Satan uses to cause us to doubt the Righteousness of our God the Creator!
Frank did not have a good answer. Rather he relied upon the understanding of complete strangers (those theologians and apologists who do not know God, neither do they know who we are and from whence we came).
We beg you to meditate upon the Nature of our God, that He is Merciful and He is JUST.
There is a way that seems right to a man which leads to perdition.
If: you are able to understand that it would be unjust of God to create people which He knew would be sent to the Hell & the Lake of Fire;
Then: would realize that for God to so do would mean that He is (in the wisdom of this world) being intentionally and willfully sadistic.
And you would be wrong!
This confusion in the church today regarding the Righteousness and Justice and Mercy of God,
» and to the world of unbelievers is a proof that the God of Jesus Christ is evil,
» derives directly from this false doctrine of men in the theology of the Church.
In summary.
The faithful and true answer to the fair question Why did God create those people when He knew beforehand that they would be condemned to hell?
. . . the answer is: Because God is both merciful and God is Just.
In order order for us to begin to understand how it is possible that God created people in this world which He knew beforehand that He would judge to eternal damnation
» one must first understand WHY He created this universe,
» and we must *know* WHY he created Adam and Eve.
One must carefully consider the Nature of God, and to know the True Priorities of the Creator;
» and to know what happened in heaven BEFORE God created this world;
» to which heavenly event the Holy Father had already decided upon His Plan to Solve Sin and Darkness and Death.
This is what happened in heaven before the creation of this world.
Group A: Some of the host of heaven joined with Lucifer's rebellion.
Group B: Some of them did NOT join into the rebellion.
All of the host of heaven were organized by God into Armies:
"the host of heaven" = "the ARMIES of heaven."
One of the three armies was headed by Lucifer.
One third of the host of heaven were placed, by God Himself, UNDER Lucifer's position.
When Lucifer was seduced by Sin and Darkness and Death . . . by his PRIDE:
1 » Some of that one-third-of-heaven openly DID REBEL with Satan.
2 » Whereas some of that one-third-of-heaven DID NOT REBEL against God.
3 » Still, ALL of that one-third-of-the-hot-of-heaven were UNCLEAN and IMPERFECT.
4 » Therefore they could NOT REMAIN in heaven.
The two groups named above, those of that one-third-of-heaven which were under their commanding officer Lucifer.
Group A which DID JOIN Lucifer's rebellion were cast down from heaven to this world; but they were not allowed by God to take upon themselves physical bodies; they remain disembodied spirits: demons and devils.
Group B which DID NOT JOIN into the rebellion
» For them God created a plan of salvation, for them to be *Redeemed*
He is making the WAY and the Truth and the Life
— by which God Himself will make them again CLEAN and PERFECT
— He will bring them [us] back into the Presence of the Father in heaven.
That is who we are, who YOU ARE
. . . where you came from, and why you came here.
Now we are able to comprehend the Justice and Mercy of God.
Once we *know God* (head knowledge does not count; one must "know God" in the biblical meaning: to have experienced God);
Then we may be ready to *know* the First Priority of God.
. . . which is a topic for another day.
If you have any questions about *how to know God* in its only Biblical meaning then please
Below are a few things you might find interesting.
The Blessing . . . videos {2022/02/17}
Video Gallery: "The Blessing ... Amen. Amen. Amen. ... May His favor be upon you to a Thousand Generations ... Amen. Amen. Amen. ... He is with you not against you ... Amen. Amen. Amen."
We have gathered together in one place "The Blessing" videos from all over the world, and we have archived them here at Inchristi.org.
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Jessica's Story documentary video, The Finger of God {12 May 2012}
Jessica is one of six children, her mother is a widow.
Jessica was born with Cerebral Palsy.
In this video Jessica was six years old . . . weighing Sixteen Pounds!
Jessica was taken to Hope Haven Guatemala (Refugio de Esperanza de Guatemala),
. . . where Mark Richard's organization manufactures and distributes free wheelchairs to disabled people who otherwise must crawl all their lives.
That day Dick Rutgers was assisting Mark Richard with the Wheelchair Distribution at the Hope Haven Factory in Guatemala . . . when Jessica's Widowed mother was able to bring her for a free wheelchair (else Jessica would be a shut-in ALL of her life).
At 5:29 into this video ... when Jessica is being held by Dick Rutgers ... Jessica cries out to her heavenly Father.
» What did our Lord Jesus Christ say about helping the widows and the fatherless?
» What does the Jesus' brother James say about our religion?
"A Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction." [James 1:27 KJV]
In Jessica's Story we could see the Finger of the Living God moving.
» Can you also see the Finger of God?
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